Wow, we really in a whole new decade. Welcome to 2020, Happy New Year all that good shit. I hope y’all had a good holiday and spent time with loved ones. Now I know this Rollin’ wit Da Homies episode is long overdue. However, I figured what better way to start the year then with fresh shit. Mees thank you for giving me your time and allowing me to capture my vision. Y’all have waited long enough so cheers to the new year, enjoy!
P.S. do you like the remodel?
SEANTIERRE: "who inspires Mees to be Mees?
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽Ę̟͖͔͓̌̀͌̊͘E̥͔͈̥͛͌̆̌Ṥ̭̗̳̺́̑: "damn, we're just jumpin' in like this?"
S: "aha yeah, I thought this was a light one."
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "My inspiration comes from anything that I enjoy really. I would say my main inspiration was Kanye 100% , like favorite artist growing up since I was a little ass kid too. That’s what what my uncle would play in the car, and what my mom would listen to, as well as other shit. I would say Kanye was a main inspiration and then there’s so many artist. Like if you just go through my playlist and stuff you’ll probably see inspiration there. Other than that, my mom in terms of work ethic and hustle. My friends inspire me, that’s a basic ass answers but seriously my friends inspire me, and just life inspires me and things I see everyday.
Like, with situations that I get into I’m a person who looks into things like metaphorically, you know? So, I get a lot of my inspiration from how life events and how things turn out."
S: "what exactly is Vice Paradise?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "Vice Paradise #1 KPOP group in America, let’s go! That’s all you need to know."
S: “Consisting of?”
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "Consisting of all my homies I met in Nashville. It just happened organically really. Not the kpop part, I had to push that on them. I was like ‘we’re kpop that’s what we gotta do’ and they really fought it, but I slowly convinced them and now they’re all on board, and that’s what we’re pushing. That’s all I gotta say. We had a performance at Kemosabi album release party, shoutout Kemosabi. He had an album release party and we performed there and it was crazy. The kpop effect is so real because all the ladies were in the front, all of ‘em. We were like what the fuck is going on. I’ve never had a mosh pit of all girls in the front it was cool as hell... yeah that’s Vice Paradise."
S: “what one of your creative avenues best reflects who Mees is as a person and an artist?”
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "I think I have trouble with that too. I mean I’m not tryna be a photographer, even though I can do photography easy, I can do videography easy, I can do editing. That comes— like, I put on the time to do that stuff and learned it. I wouldn’t say that’s what I’m tryna do. I wanna just become the—, I still wanna remain an artist. I’m never gonna be like business before art. It’s always business second to me. But, I very much care about the business side, but it’s always the art first. I’m a artist. Like as corny as that sounds, I wanna crate things that people just feel. When you watch it it evokes emotion. It’s not just like dry or it’s not just visually cool. Your not just seeing it and thinking ‘oh that’s tight.’ I want it to evoke emotion. So, that’s more so what my new music is gonna do. It’s gonna be more— ya know when you just see something or you hear a song and it actually triggers emotion in you? There’s a difference, there’s a real difference.”
“Or a movie, like a movie that’s good and you really resonate with will stay with you for a few days even after you watch it. So I’m tryna make stuff like that. Originally, I wa a movie director. Like, I was tryna make movies for the longest time before I even made music I was tryna make movies.”
S: "what happened to that?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "Movies require big ass teams and a lot of money and it's just so hard to get into, whereas music is DIY. It's been democratized, anyone can make music from their home. Not everyone can make a movie from their home, like a good one. You could make a fire song that goes all over the nation from home, but you can't make a fire movie that goes all over the nation from home. Not by yourself, you need a big ass team. That could change, who knows? Maybe you could do a big ass movie from home. If Man on Fire takes off then that's a big ass movie that we made from home. It was just me and Izzy. So, that would be an exception if it takes off. If not then it's still true, you know? It's hard to make movies like that. Eventually though when I get the budget and people fuck with what I'm doing, and they understand I'm back into movies. Imma make music forever though, I love it.
S: "what influences your editing style?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "for videos, I just try to make it nice. I just try and get the job done. I don't even consider myself a director — I don't try to be a — not that I'm not a director. I do see myself as a director, like a creative director mostly and ideas, but I'm not pushing to be a like a lone wolf, or a Dray Vegas or Cole Bennett. Like, I'm not tryna be a video director for other people honestly. I do it because I have to and because I do it for myself and doing it for other people is just something I do to make money until I can do it full time for me, and the artist I really fuck with. I would love to do like, video editing in the future if I get sick of making music at the moment or because sometimes I'll be in transition periods where it's like I don't feel like working on music for this whole month, I wanna do videos only. So, that's what I get into and it's like now I really don't have a choice who I work with it's just my friends who are around me, but in the future I guess I would like to do specific roll outs or videos for people...
you know I think that didn't even answer your question, that was like a huge ramble. What would describe my video editing style is just, I like colors a lot. I like narrative, some of my newer videos don't have narrative, but that's just cause the market. You can make rap videos, they don't need a story. I'm starting to move back into the stories. Like I used to do a lot of videos with stories and pushing a narrative. That's kind of what Man on Fire (a rap video meets short film project directed by Mees) was, this one 20 minute story. And after that I was so sick of it, I was like 'fuck this' it's so much work to do a narrative."
S: "what made you get into music?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "My homie Ellis would make beats, it was like high school. We went to his basement, and we'd just fuck around on FL studio and I fell in love. I was like "i don't know why I've never done this.' My uncle makes beats and he was tryna tell me to do it at a young age, but I just never understood it. I was like 'I don't give a fuck about this. I'm tryna— you know. I just didn't care. I didn't have the drive at that point. Then once I really got into it, I was grounded for like a whole year junior year, and that made me really reflect like 'what am I tryna do?' and then senior year I found beats, so I just went with it. Like I dove so deep into it. Every night I would watch 3 hours of tutorials, 4 hours of tutorials. Then I'd make beats until I fell asleep, and then from there on I just kept doing it."
S: "that's dope as fuck though, that grind is inspiring as hell."
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "thank you. It's like— it's grind yes, but when you find your passion you're just gonna do it anyway you're not gonna notice that the hours are just flying by, because you love it so much. But after that, after that honeymoon period goes away then it's grind because you still love it, but you know you have to go hard everyday still like you first fell in love with it. Just to make it work. That's the real grind I think, after you get pass that honeymoon stage."
S: "I saw that you had a clothing line, which you gave up to make music?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "I sold it, I didn't give it up. I sold my half for 500 dollars. We made like $3000 total, but I i sold my half to the other person who ran it. He was the co-owner, it was my idea,but he also wanted to start a business. His name is Mitch Hill — shout out Mitch hill. He's doing big things. He redesigns children's cancer centers now and makes them nice so kids aren't intimidated. But, basically we split up because he just started taking control, like creative control and wanting to change things I was really set on an I’m the type of person where I’ll die on my hill. If I believe in something that’s where it’s going or I’m out. So, I didn’t like where he was tryna take it. I was like fuck it I’m selling my half, give me my money. I tried to start another clothing company but it didn’t work.”
S: "Even though the other clothing line didn’t work out would you say all of it was worth it though?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "I would say I made the mistake of trying the clothing company again. I should’ve just take my money and invested in a camera. Which I ended up doing later anyway, but that’s what I would’ve done looking back. It was worth it for sure. I learned so much about business and marketing doing that. And even designing and working with other companies to produce your designs and all that. I learned a lot about the clothing industry. I’ll for sure be back in it. I see myself like Tyler, the Creator where once his music popped off and shit started working for their group they really took advantage and started using their resources and he starts making fire ass clothes. I’m not like A$AP Rocky or a fashion type person. I’m not boujee. I’m not tryna be Paris runway type shit, I just like nice clothes. It doesn’t even need to be expensive. It’s just I like nice clothes, if it’s nice it doesn’t matter what the price is to me. I’m not a person whose gonna flex a $300 shirt or something like that. That’s corny to me honestly cause pricing should be secondary to how nice the clothing is."
S: "Is there anything or anyone in particular that influences your editing style?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "I watch a lot of Pat Banahan. Shoutout Pat Banahan. Lone wolf, I love his style. Obviously Cole (Bennet), Cole influences a lot of people. I know I’m forgetting someone, but those and mainly movies. Just movies from my childhood that I’ve collected."
S: "what’s the most valuable thing you’ve learned on your artistic journey so far?"
M̥̼͕̮̳̑͌̎̆̽: "I haven’t even made it or made a real impact at the moment, so take it with a grain of salt. But don’t plan to a point where it freezes you up, because if you do that your never gonna— don’t let perfection get in the way of productivity’ that’s Autumns favorite line I swear, but it’s true. Because it’s always better to get it done and have it be medium or whatever then have this perfect idea in your head that never gets done. Cause that perfect idea is always gonna manifest as not as perfect as what it was in your head. The point of practice is to get to the point where that perfect idea in your head comes out perfect. That’s what practice does. It just makes that transition from your head to reality better. Otherwise it’s just gonna be practice."